War.

[Bourgunidi]

Hello i am Bourgunidi and i would like to play a clanwar against the Paradise lost clan. We are a pretty new clan in town so we probably can't come up with 6o6, but 5o5 or 4o4 would be just great. Our suggestion:
If 4o4:
The Extreme Fighters cup rules:
www.efcup.ycn-gaming.com/index.php?file=Sections&op=article&artid=2
And we will play on the ETW server, where one of my friends (m6mmi) got referee.

If 5o5:
The Etwars Rules:
www.etwars.net/index.php?file=Page&name=Rules
We will play on the ETW server, where one of my friends (m6mmi) got referee.

Now about the date... What do you think of sunday the 30th arround 15:00 GMT? Or Saturday the 29th 15:00?

Please post a reply here, or add me on msn (reply here is prefered because i'm not really much on msn) My msn/email: [e-mail]

Greetings, Bourgunidi and our new clan. (our clan name is LSFFP (lightspeed freedomfighting pwners)

[ironman]

Bourgunidi said:

Hello i am Bourgunidi and i would like to play a clanwar against the Paradise lost clan. We are a pretty new clan in town so we probably can't come up with 6o6, but 5o5 or 4o4 would be just great. Our suggestion:
If 4o4:
The Extreme Fighters cup rules:
www.efcup.ycn-gaming.com/index.php?file=Sections&op=article&artid=2
And we will play on the ETW server, where one of my friends (m6mmi) got referee.

If 5o5:
The Etwars Rules:
www.etwars.net/index.php?file=Page&name=Rules
We will play on the ETW server, where one of my friends (m6mmi) got referee.

Now about the date... What do you think of sunday the 30th arround 15:00 GMT? Or Saturday the 29th 15:00?

Please post a reply here, or add me on msn (reply here is prefered because i'm not really much on msn) My msn/email: [e-mail]

Greetings, Bourgunidi and our new clan. (our clan name is LSFFP (lightspeed freedomfighting pwners)

them etcupfigher rules are dumb no mines WTF!!!! go play a other game wich doesnt have landmines or something, i hate being restricted we play the game to its full potentiol, if u read our clan war rules you would know this..

paradiselost1.proboards25.com/index.cgi?board=clanwars&action=display&thread=1134520246


have you ever in your whole life seen such DUMB rules???

--Team Management!

* On Page should be registered atleast 5 members.
*Matches are played 4on4 style. Players should be in gameserver 10 mins before
offical start time, would be good. Altho we will wait 5 minutes over the offical time, if it is needed. Still no member, the map will be played on 3on4. (4on4 rules will still apply)
* No Heavy Weapon.(No tank MG and Served MG's)
* 1 Rifle Grenader (That does not affect the ammount of rifles can be used.)
* No mines.
* Side doors are Disallowed.
* Trickplanting is Disallowed.

there is only oen question left, what game are you guys playing because it usre isnt wolfenstein et...
no side doors hahahahahah OMG!!!!
no tank machiengun hahahahah so what ar eu supposed to do just sit on the tank waiting for ur head to catch a bullet... ;D

and we play on our own server(s) we have had too many bad experiences with other people hosting a clan war, trying to cheat or whatever, when we do play a war it will be in the Game ET and that means making use of all its weapons and options as long as they are not cheats or exploits...

[Bourgunidi]

Game restrictions are needed, would you like 4 panzerfaust's in a 5o5? Or unlimited mines, wich are planted everywhere by the defending team?
Also those rules are made by EYjohn (one of the most known et members). Also etwars is the most known and most played 2.55 cup/league. So there is almost no point for our members to play with other rules, because then we can't practice.

[ironman]

Bourgunidi said:

Game restrictions are needed, would you like 4 panzerfaust's in a 5o5? Or unlimited mines, wich are planted everywhere by the defending team?
Also those rules are made by EYjohn (one of the most known et members). Also etwars is the most known and most played 2.55 cup/league. So there is almost no point for our members to play with other rules, because then we can't practice.

that EYjohn is a fucking idiot if those are hes rules he should see a freaking docter, wich game does he play ??, because it sure isnt wolfenstein ET..
and hes rules are not ours we dont know him and we dont care for him we have been in this game almost 3 years and i think we know what we are doing..

each side has 10 mines like always, heavy weapon restriction is 100% so only 1 heavy weapon to a side,
why do people feel the need to change a perfectly good game? we play it everyday like this like everyone does but when a clan war comes all of a sudden everyone wants to make changes and almost always in there own favor.. if they are bad with rifle nades they dont want rifle nades , if they are bad with landmines they dont want landmines, if they are bad in heavy weapons, then they dont want heavy weapons,, all total BULLSHIT

10.000 people play this game each and everyday according to the normal rules i see no reason to change any of them just because this is a clan scirm or clan war.. total bullshit..

and the best and most well known man in ET is me!! i never ever heard of EYJohn and seeing what a nonsese he writes i dont care to meet him neither,,, he shoudl go play chess or something else..

[ironman]

Bourgunidi said:

Game restrictions are needed, would you like 4 panzerfaust's in a 5o5? Or unlimited mines, wich are planted everywhere by the defending team?
Also those rules are made by EYjohn (one of the most known et members). Also etwars is the most known and most played 2.55 cup/league. So there is almost no point for our members to play with other rules, because then we can't practice.

you are not practicing Wolfenstein Et because you are not playing it, when u meet a clan like ours who plays the game like it was made then you have a problem, cause you are not used to mines, wich are a vital part in ET against cov ops infiltration, you dont even know how to fire a rifle nade..

i never limit my troops they should be and are good in any and all weapons, i dont like restrictions and i dont like being restricted..

why are u so worried about et cup , we have been here almost 3 years we never fought in a cup we just fight other clans, these cup guys are just tryign to make money with there silly tournaments,

if i make a tourament tomorrow offering 100 dollars cash does that mean i can change all thes rules int he game,, yes ....does that still mean we are playign wolfenstein et like its makers intended ..no
so i dont see no use in restricting the game or my troops, the makers of ET made the game as is, and it is perfect as is.. it is balanced it has a big range of stuff to do, and if i dotn want all that stuff then i go play return to castle wolfenstein... and if iam sick of all that i go play chess

[ironman]

now i know why it all sounds so nooby cause jeez look:

EYjohn
Posts : 421
Joined: 03/03/07

he been only at it for like 5 months....

now here is mine

IRONMAN
Joined: Oct 2004

somehow i dont think this tourament will draw the big old clans because these rules are absolutly terrible and rape the total game,, no use of side doors allowed hahahahahah..

[Vencida]

hello all, my name is Vencida and im a member of LSFFP
i read all this stuff and i think ur wrong ironman, without rules the game will be complete chaos, and i think this competition rules make it more fair. It is not that we are bad in mines or side ways but they screw up a good fight. Mines can be very good but also bit lame u see and even if i can use them i wont cuz it is for cowards, but thats my opinion. Besides more teamwork is needed without mines and thats where this game is about, teamwork. Same goes for heavy weapons, they really screw game, most lamest example is arty. I played in some servers where there was a contiously going arty on the tank or truck, which is just unfair. But to the point, u said we do war in your server? i dunno if it is good server with etpro and stopwatch and competition settings? It is more fair to battle at a neutral server, a competition server. Plz reply.

[ironman]

Vencida said:

hello all, my name is Vencida and im a member of LSFFP
i read all this stuff and i think ur wrong ironman, without rules the game will be complete chaos, and i think this competition rules make it more fair. It is not that we are bad in mines or side ways but they screw up a good fight. Mines can be very good but also bit lame u see and even if i can use them i wont cuz it is for cowards, but thats my opinion. Besides more teamwork is needed without mines and thats where this game is about, teamwork. Same goes for heavy weapons, they really screw game, most lamest example is arty. I played in some servers where there was a contiously going arty on the tank or truck, which is just unfair. But to the point, u said we do war in your server? i dunno if it is good server with etpro and stopwatch and competition settings? It is more fair to battle at a neutral server, a competition server. Plz reply.

what u mean to say is: iam bad in team work because our cov ops can not spot the mines
wha tu mean to say is: we dont liek side doors because we attack so much we forget to defend..

we dont play et pro we are a 2.55 clan we have been and always be a 2.55 clan, we play by our rules liek the makers of the game intended the game to be played.. you think u can design a better balanced game?? then i suggest you go do it, what gives u the right to change all the normal rules of the game like the makers intended it to be played?

heavy weapon restriction i can understand.
no trick jumping ok i can understand
no bug explaoit , i can understand
no side doors, WTF! that is a vital part of the game
no land mines WTF! that is a vital part of the game and can make sure your defences are not rushed by 5 medics of the enemy team.
only 1 rifle nade WTF i really can not see the restriction in that, someone needs to explain that one to me, because u lost me..totally..

and chaos?? lol ,war = CHAOS my friend that is the good part clans who dont have there act together will fall in the chaos.. that is part of the game, disiplining your troops moulding them into 1 fighting force..

[Bourgunidi]

admin said:

now i know why it all sounds so nooby cause jeez look:

EYjohn
Posts : 421
Joined: 03/03/07

he been only at it for like 5 months....

now here is mine

IRONMAN
Joined: Oct 2004

somehow i dont think this tourament will draw the big old clans because these rules are absolutly terrible and rape the total game,, no use of side doors allowed hahahahahah..

So everyone that plays shorter then you is weaker then you? I dont think so. He is definatly one of the better players on ET. That you never heard of him is becouse you only play pub, Tell me: how many clanwar's have you played? 20? Maybe 50? Maybe less, well he has more then 3 times as much as you ( at least). Also who want's the big old clan's? If they can get strong new clans? Have you ever scrimmed on ETPRO? Why do you think ETPRO is the main competition mod, and not etpub/shrub/whale? It has a reason doesnt it?

[ironman]

btw iam now answering this but we have special clan members called MW = Ministers of War who handle these things ...
but they are also bound by our rules, we can give and take a little bit as long as it is nto redicilouse. and the rules i read on that tournament website are too much hahaha they are so silly it is funny

[Bourgunidi]

No landmines: Landmines are allowed in 5o5 ETW, but to explain: If you play a 5o5 and the enemy can plant 10 mines, they dont have to fire any shot do they? Just plant the mines nicely.

1 rifle grenade: It's very much known that rifle almost always is better then a mp40/thompson. And 5o5 With 6 rifle's is just not fun.


No side doors: in 4o4 you dont have enough players to cover all holes, some big holes would be left open then and it would be very easy for the attacking team.

And war ain't chaos if played right. Because in ET: Teamwork > Aim.

[ironman]

Bourgunidi said:

admin said:

now i know why it all sounds so nooby cause jeez look:

EYjohn
Posts : 421
Joined: 03/03/07

he been only at it for like 5 months....

now here is mine

IRONMAN
Joined: Oct 2004

somehow i dont think this tourament will draw the big old clans because these rules are absolutly terrible and rape the total game,, no use of side doors allowed hahahahahah..

So everyone that plays shorter then you is weaker then you? I dont think so. He is definatly one of the better players on ET. That you never heard of him is becouse you only play pub, Tell me: how many clanwar's have you played? 20? Maybe 50? Maybe less, well he has more then 3 times as much as you ( at least). Also who want's the big old clan's? If they can get strong new clans? Have you ever scrimmed on ETPRO? Why do you think ETPRO is the main competition mod, and not etpub/shrub/whale? It has a reason doesnt it?

he wins if he plays by hes own silly rules...
and yes et pro has soem advantages but none can surpass our et modification, name one thing etpro has that we dont have...

and in my 3 year cyber army career i played so many battles i can not even recall how many, and if u take into account the 5 years i played wolfenstein then i knwo for sure i played more clan wars then anyone else in this whole silly lil game...

wich is beside the point wich is, those rules are ridicilouse and anyoen who agrees with those rules restricts them selves.. and i dont like to be restricted, the game was made perfectly so no changes are needed,

you dont want nade rigle, go play wolfenstein
you dont like mobiel machine gun ,go play wolfenstein
you dont like cos ops , go play wolfenstein
you dont like et, then i suggest you dont play it, and when and if you do, play it as it was ment to be played... and dont invent all kinds of silly rules wich only are to your own advantage wich he clearly did
he doesnt like side doors so he restricts them
he doesnt like nade rifles so he restricts them
he doesnt like land mines so he restricts them

it seems he doenst liek to play ET to me, but that is just my own humble opiniun..

[ironman]

Bourgunidi said:

No landmines: Landmines are allowed in 5o5 ETW, but to explain: If you play a 5o5 and the enemy can plant 10 mines, they dont have to fire any shot do they? Just plant the mines nicely.

1 rifle grenade: It's very much known that rifle almost always is better then a mp40/thompson. And 5o5 With 6 rifle's is just not fun.


No side doors: in 4o4 you dont have enough players to cover all holes, some big holes would be left open then and it would be very easy for the attacking team.

And war ain't chaos if played right. Because in ET: Teamwork > Aim.

that is why you have covert ops so he can detect the mines..
nade rifle is one of the hardest weapons in the game, you get one shot and tht is it, if u miss u are left with a pea shooter and u end up dead..
it isnt that we all have panzer and plant mines all over the place runnign arround with a nade rifle, it is the fact that we dont like to be restricted, the game is perfect as is..... if you dont like the game go PLAY A OTHER GAME!!!!

and side door 4vs 4, if you cant cover it all then u have a problem, then u should have used landmines... or choosen a other map to play..

the problem is not the game or its rules, it is always the same problem people trying to avoid the hard parts. and taking the easy road.

[Bourgunidi]

admin said:

Bourgunidi said:

So everyone that plays shorter then you is weaker then you? I dont think so. He is definatly one of the better players on ET. That you never heard of him is becouse you only play pub, Tell me: how many clanwar's have you played? 20? Maybe 50? Maybe less, well he has more then 3 times as much as you ( at least). Also who want's the big old clan's? If they can get strong new clans? Have you ever scrimmed on ETPRO? Why do you think ETPRO is the main competition mod, and not etpub/shrub/whale? It has a reason doesnt it?

he wins if he plays by hes own silly rules...
and yes et pro has soem advantages but none can surpass our et modification, name one thing etpro has that we dont have...

and in my 3 year cyber army career i played so many battles i can not even recall how many, and if u take into account the 5 years i played wolfenstein then i knwo for sure i played more clan wars then anyone else in this whole silly lil game...

wich is beside the point wich is, those rules are ridicilouse and anyoen who agrees with those rules restricts them selves.. and i dont like to be restricted, the game was made perfectly so no changes are needed,

you dont want nade rigle, go play wolfenstein
you dont like mobiel machine gun ,go play wolfenstein
you dont like cos ops , go play wolfenstein
you dont like et, then i suggest you dont play it, and when and if you do, play it as it was ment to be played... and dont invent all kinds of silly rules wich only are to your own advantage wich he clearly did
he doesnt like side doors so he restricts them
he doesnt like nade rifles so he restricts them
he doesnt like land mines so he restricts them

it seems he doenst liek to play ET to me, but that is just my own humble opiniun..

Well i don't know your mod, but i can name some things:
Fair spawntimes (allies 20 and axis 30)
Better hitboxes
Antilag
Lagtoolbar
Option to change hud
Pffft what do we have more, ehrm speed toolbar. And if et was maked perfectly, why do you play with a mod? So with your battle experience, you should have the skill to win from us right? Even with our noob changed rules.

[Bourgunidi]

admin said:

Bourgunidi said:

No landmines: Landmines are allowed in 5o5 ETW, but to explain: If you play a 5o5 and the enemy can plant 10 mines, they dont have to fire any shot do they? Just plant the mines nicely.

1 rifle grenade: It's very much known that rifle almost always is better then a mp40/thompson. And 5o5 With 6 rifle's is just not fun.


No side doors: in 4o4 you dont have enough players to cover all holes, some big holes would be left open then and it would be very easy for the attacking team.

And war ain't chaos if played right. Because in ET: Teamwork > Aim.

that is why you have covert ops so he can detect the mines..
nade rifle is one of the hardest weapons in the game, you get one shot and tht is it, if u miss u are left with a pea shooter and u end up dead..
it isnt that we all have panzer and plant mines all over the place runnign arround with a nade rifle, it is the fact that we dont like to be restricted, the game is perfect as is..... if you dont like the game go PLAY A OTHER GAME!!!!

and side door 4vs 4, if you cant cover it all then u have a problem, then u should have used landmines... or choosen a other map to play..

the problem is not the game or its rules, it is always the same problem people trying to avoid the hard parts. and taking the easy road.

The rifle:
1shot = owned you
If you are stupid, and miss the shot you win becouse you still did some damage
If you are really stupid and you miss the shot completely you have still arround 33% winning chances, because k43/Garand shoots stronger then a smg.

[germanwunderkind]

but not that accurate

is our opinion about this game so strange ??

the programmers publishers producer of it
had an idea and an explaination why they put in
rifle nades mines cv ops etc.

over the years
we learned to use the whole game
not only the parts we like ! ! !

kind regards
GWK

[ironman]

Bourgunidi said:

admin said:

he wins if he plays by hes own silly rules...
and yes et pro has soem advantages but none can surpass our et modification, name one thing etpro has that we dont have...

and in my 3 year cyber army career i played so many battles i can not even recall how many, and if u take into account the 5 years i played wolfenstein then i knwo for sure i played more clan wars then anyone else in this whole silly lil game...

wich is beside the point wich is, those rules are ridicilouse and anyoen who agrees with those rules restricts them selves.. and i dont like to be restricted, the game was made perfectly so no changes are needed,

you dont want nade rigle, go play wolfenstein
you dont like mobiel machine gun ,go play wolfenstein
you dont like cos ops , go play wolfenstein
you dont like et, then i suggest you dont play it, and when and if you do, play it as it was ment to be played... and dont invent all kinds of silly rules wich only are to your own advantage wich he clearly did
he doesnt like side doors so he restricts them
he doesnt like nade rifles so he restricts them
he doesnt like land mines so he restricts them

it seems he doenst liek to play ET to me, but that is just my own humble opiniun..

Well i don't know your mod, but i can name some things:
Fair spawntimes (allies 20 and axis 30)
Better hitboxes
Antilag
Lagtoolbar
Option to change hud
Pffft what do we have more, ehrm speed toolbar. And if et was maked perfectly, why do you play with a mod? So with your battle experience, you should have the skill to win from us right? Even with our noob changed rules.

fair spawn times = can be set always using rcon
but the game designers gave all maps a good spawn time to give both sides a fair changes, giving both sides 20 sec spawn is in most cases not fair to allies ort axis
for example goldrush givign axis and allies boith 20 szec spawn tiem is UNFAIR to allies since they have to walk to the tank and axis spawn at tank, that is not fair axis have a much better change to defend and lay mines..
Antilag is a standard in all ET games
lagtoolbar = useless we have no use for that, and no one has any use for that
option to change hud is standard in all games..

[ironman]

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OMG! pit saw this one on that website, this explains a lot doesnt it, anyone foolish enough to recruite him cant have all hes marbles in order..

this guy is one of the most annoying people in this game and hes a REF in a tournament hahaha, well hes banned here or was banned..
paradiselost1.proboards25.com/index.cgi?action=viewprofile&user=xaider

i dont think anyone in the clan wants anything to do with him even if there llife depended on it..

[DarkClown]

admin said:

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OMG! pit saw this one on that website, this explains a lot doesnt it, anyone foolish enough to recruite him cant have all hes marbles in order..

this guy is one of the most annoying people in this game and hes a REF in a tournament hahaha, well hes banned here or was banned..
paradiselost1.proboards25.com/index.cgi?action=viewprofile&user=xaider

i dont think anyone in the clan wants anything to do with him even if there llife depended on it..

well, he is banned on the forum, but he still visits the servers asking to be unbanned here, oh well..

[Bourgunidi]

lololol is that retard also on the plc servers? :') Well he is just a normal referee so he doesnt have the ref pass when it isnt a offical match. (Some system scripted changes the ref pass when it is not an offical match. also m6mmi can kick him when he joins. Btw, i haven't seen him for a while... Didn't he quit et? I did saw his brother (MeCtru or so) actually sometimes.