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Post by Zecristo on Nov 1, 2005 12:41:19 GMT 1
I was zapping last night when I came across this documentary in Reality TV channel on next generation weapons. I lost the beginning but nevertheless saw some rather disturbing machines at work. I will try to search the net about 2 or 3 more of them weapons but for now here's this "family" of next generation small arms. The OICW and the OCSW www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/oicw.htmThis is a system integrating a small caliber assault rifle and a large caliber (very large if you're thinking of infantry) weapon firing fragmentation rounds that can be programmed to burst at at a given distance from the barrel and at a given height from the ground. This means that being, for instance, behind a wall will be no longer a safety guarantee. The fragmentation round will explode past the wall and over it killing or wounding whoever had the misfortune of thinking he or she was safe there. www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/ocsw.htmThis is a machine gun firing programmable rounds of the same kind as the OICW, only even heavier. Click the Sources and Resources link under the photo to see a 20 (+-) slide presentation of the weapon. Just like Cheesecake says: - Whatever man will find next to kill other men... |
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Post by xxx on Nov 1, 2005 13:17:55 GMT 1
Insed of developing more deadly wepons, maybe they should focus on developing wepons that disables a man not kill him !
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Post by JNK on Nov 1, 2005 15:00:29 GMT 1
Yes, why would of we made up the decision of the war by playing ET, or something like that.  Many countryes spent miiiiillions of dollars to weapons and other military stuff. |
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Post by SilentVoice on Nov 1, 2005 18:11:43 GMT 1
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Post by Zecristo on Nov 1, 2005 23:02:28 GMT 1
Insed of developing more deadly wepons, maybe they should focus on developing wepons that disables a man not kill him ! Oh yes! The documentary had a part about those too, including: The very famous (but not so new generation) tazer that cuts the communication between the brain and the muscles. A vehicle borne microwave generator that seems to cause people to feel an uncomfortable heat feeling, enough to drive people away from where they are. And probably more I do not remember now... |
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Post by cheesecake on Nov 1, 2005 23:09:06 GMT 1
Insed of developing more deadly wepons, maybe they should focus on developing wepons that disables a man not kill him ! So innocent men go to fight for their country (maybe under a stupid leader, and they are forced to fight) and they have to be diabled for their life after the war?...if they are not going to live a quality of life after the war, which they fight for, then whats the pont in developing a gun that will snatch the whole meaning of them risking their lives?... They should not develop guns to disable people, they should (if they are going to shoot them) injure them, and at worst, kill them!!... This is my opinion btw, but good questions in there to be answered!! |
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Post by JNK on Nov 2, 2005 15:07:23 GMT 1
Insed of developing more deadly wepons, maybe they should focus on developing wepons that disables a man not kill him ! So innocent men go to fight for their country (maybe under a stupid leader, and they are forced to fight) and they have to be diabled for their life after the war?...if they are not going to live a quality of life after the war, which they fight for, then whats the pont in developing a gun that will snatch the whole meaning of them risking their lives?... They should not develop guns to disable people, they should (if they are going to shoot them) injure them, and at worst, kill them!!... This is my opinion btw, but good questions in there to be answered!! And many of those Yank dumbasses says 'yes' to war in Iraq...  Weapons rules in games, but not in real life. If you have SMG in your house, do you use it to hunt, like in usa. |
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Post by xxx on Nov 2, 2005 17:22:02 GMT 1
Insed of developing more deadly weapons, maybe they should focus on developing weapons that disables a man not kill him ! So innocent men go to fight for their country (maybe under a stupid leader, and they are forced to fight) and they have to be diabled for their life after the war?...if they are not going to live a quality of life after the war, which they fight for, then whats the pont in developing a gun that will snatch the whole meaning of them risking their lives?... They should not develop guns to disable people, they should (if they are going to shoot them) injure them, and at worst, kill them!!... This is my opinion btw, but good questions in there to be answered!! That would work great in ww1 where the solders actually fought between themselves on the fronts... but now as you can see almost more civilians are killed than solders its a "who kills more civilians" type of war these days its just a question when they are gona start using weapons of mass destruction ....! |
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Post by Zecristo on Nov 8, 2005 18:15:17 GMT 1
So innocent men go to fight for their country (maybe under a stupid leader, and they are forced to fight) and they have to be diabled for their life after the war?...if they are not going to live a quality of life after the war, which they fight for, then whats the pont in developing a gun that will snatch the whole meaning of them risking their lives?... They should not develop guns to disable people, they should (if they are going to shoot them) injure them, and at worst, kill them!!... This is my opinion btw, but good questions in there to be answered!! That would work great in ww1 where the solders actually fought between themselves on the fronts... but now as you can see almost more civilians are killed than solders its a "who kills more civilians" type of war these days its just a question when they are gona start using weapons of mass destruction ....! Killing civilians was always an option... History tells us of many ancient or medieval sieges that ended with the extermination of all people living in the besieged city. But I've heard something about statistics revealing that in recent times an ever greater proportion of war casualties are civilians. That can of course be partially explained by the ever increasing numbers of people as opposed to ever fewer military personnel "needed" to kill and destroy in modern mechanized and even informatized armed forces. Furthermore, as ever greater numbers of people are packed in limited areas and denied enough resources to live decently, more willing to act violently people you get and more willing to eliminate other resource consumers people you get. That is why resources are being artificially denied to many populations; to keep them willing to act violently... Weapons of mass destruction were already used and some weapons dubbed as conventional are at least very near the definition of "mass". Take for example cluster bombs. They kill in "mass" within their landing area and are also terror weapons because a good percentage of the bomblets do not explode on contact and remain a very serious threat to whatever local population remains... What strikes me most, however, is that discussion about civilian/military casualty rates is only "interesting" from the historic point of view. For the future you (the human species) should be discussing war/peace rates and how to tilt the balance to the peace scale side. |
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Post by ironman on Nov 9, 2005 4:07:53 GMT 1
ever heard of fire storm?? its a small easy to use and easy to set up "machinegun" wich has 500 barrles compacted into a box, each barrle has 100 bullets that are fired electronicly by a computer, it can shoot any form u wish and at any rate u wish, u can fire all bullets in one blow or have it fire zig zag rows of bullets, they even made a handgun of it now... it can take out a small batalion of enemy soldiers in one hail of bullets.. cant find any pictures of it on the internet...  |
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Post by SilentVoice on Nov 9, 2005 11:28:29 GMT 1
ever heard of fire storm?? its a small easy to use and easy to set up "machinegun" wich has 500 barrles compacted into a box, each barrle has 100 bullets that are fired electronicly by a computer, it can shoot any form u wish and at any rate u wish, u can fire all bullets in one blow or have it fire zig zag rows of bullets, they even made a handgun of it now... it can take out a small batalion of enemy soldiers in one hail of bullets.. cant find any pictures of it on the internet... Woooahhh 500 barrels ...Insane  Is it a HMG ? -Which caliber ? -Bullet type (FMJ,SJHP,JHP,JSP,AP,Caseles... ?) and its propulsion... ? -Magazine/feed (100b. per a barrel ........explain if u can) ? -Theoretical fire rate (rounds per a minute) ? -Weight/Length |
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Post by Zecristo on Nov 10, 2005 21:33:02 GMT 1
ever heard of fire storm?? its a small easy to use and easy to set up "machinegun" wich has 500 barrles compacted into a box, each barrle has 100 bullets that are fired electronicly by a computer, it can shoot any form u wish and at any rate u wish, u can fire all bullets in one blow or have it fire zig zag rows of bullets, they even made a handgun of it now... it can take out a small batalion of enemy soldiers in one hail of bullets.. cant find any pictures of it on the internet... Woooahhh 500 barrels ...Insane Is it a HMG ? -Which caliber ? -Bullet type (FMJ,SJHP,JHP,JSP,AP,Caseles... ?) and its propulsion... ? -Magazine/feed (100b. per a barrel ........explain if u can) ? -Theoretical fire rate (rounds per a minute) ? -Weight/Length I believe we are talking about this: www.cnn.com/2003/BUSINESS/06/26/australia.metalstorm/ |
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Post by SilentVoice on Nov 11, 2005 1:27:23 GMT 1
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Post by ironman on Nov 11, 2005 9:36:54 GMT 1
Woooahhh 500 barrels ...Insane Is it a HMG ? -Which caliber ? -Bullet type (FMJ,SJHP,JHP,JSP,AP,Caseles... ?) and its propulsion... ? -Magazine/feed (100b. per a barrel ........explain if u can) ? -Theoretical fire rate (rounds per a minute) ? -Weight/Length I believe we are talking about this: www.cnn.com/2003/BUSINESS/06/26/australia.metalstorm/yeah tht is the thing, i thopughed it was called firestorm but it is called metal storm (for good reason)  Metal Storm's high-speed gun, capable of firing at a rate of a million rounds a minute. they are electronicly fired each bullet is connected to a small detonator wich can be activated in any single way you like.. now that is the state of the art combat shit  Metal Storm weapons, such as the grenade launcher (depicted in this drawing) and the handgun under development, use a fully electronic operating system instead of a mechanical one. They have no separate magazine, ammunition feed, ejection system or conventional cartridge case. Source: Metal Storm Limited  When the first bullet in the stack is fired, the next bullet expands and locks into the barrel. This prevents high pressure and high temperatures that could prematurely ignite the gunpowder. When the “locked” bullet fires, decreased pressure allows it to fire as a conventional bullet. Metal Storm weapons have shot at rates up to 1 million rounds per minute from a 36-barrel weapon. A weapon’s actual capacity is about 540 rounds, depending on much ammunition can be loaded into it and the duration of firing these things can whipe out a whole platoon in a matter of seconds, im sure we will see them on future battlefields, and i might add,,,, be sure u are on the right side of them barrles (meaning behind it) cos believe u mean anything infront of them will defantly die... just imagine what will happen if u mount these things on a hummer and drive to a battlefield... iv seena demostration on tv with this thing and it totally anialated everything!! freaking insane,, only problem is you cant reload them, and that is there weakness.. you have to replace all the barrles in order to "reload" it and that takes up a lot of time,, |
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Post by ironman on Nov 11, 2005 9:55:24 GMT 1
ok nevermind mounting it on a hummer... look at this shiatt!!!!   Metal Storm 40 mm weapon system mounted on an unmanned ground vehicle engaging various targets on a snow covered range at the US Army's Picatinny Arsenal.  flash bang fire and detonation from rear and side (flash bang are light grenades ment to blind the enemy temparaly)  Fire storm Dragonfly all these vichels are unmanned, and remotly controlled..  believe you me, any enemy that sees these things come at them will throw there weapons to the ground and there face down in the mutt ;D |
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Post by SilentVoice on Nov 11, 2005 10:39:39 GMT 1
believe you me, any enemy that sees these things come at them will throw there weapons to the ground and there face down in the mutt ;D Well maybe because when they see this thing they wont have a head... |
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Post by Zecristo on Nov 11, 2005 13:46:36 GMT 1
www.powerlabs.org/emguns.htmAnd another one of the "beauties" appearing on that Reality TV documentary. "Rail Gun" does not mean railway car carried gun anymore...
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Post by JNK on Nov 11, 2005 15:23:23 GMT 1
Oh, where do anyone need that poop ?  |
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Post by xxx on Nov 11, 2005 16:30:56 GMT 1
1 milion bullets fired omfg thats insane!!! |
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Post by SilentVoice on Nov 11, 2005 19:43:49 GMT 1
www.powerlabs.org/emguns.htmAnd another one of the "beauties" appearing on that Reality TV documentary. "Rail Gun" does not mean railway car carried gun anymore... Yea really bitchen...I read trough the whole www.powerlabs.org a couple a months ago,good site. |
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