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Post by SilentVoice on Sept 24, 2005 0:08:49 GMT 1
If u like war movies and stories u have to watch:
-Heartbreak ridge -Wind Talkers -Borthers in arms serial -Enemy at the gates -Saving private Rayan -We were soldiers -Bunker
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Post by fr3sh on Sept 24, 2005 1:08:38 GMT 1
Heartbreak ridge...
another 'oldie but goldie' with Eastwood: Kelly's Heroes
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Post by xxx on Sept 24, 2005 6:11:38 GMT 1
yeah all good movies exelent in fact but my favorite is brothers in arm seris i love that series
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Post by SilentVoice on Sept 24, 2005 6:19:36 GMT 1
All that i have listed i also find good and kindly recommend to all to see,but I am also interested in any other movies with the similare theme/subjecet.
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Post by fr3sh on Sept 24, 2005 8:08:01 GMT 1
check out the film "when trumpets fade"
and something a bit mor humoristic: 'M.A.S.H.' (Mobile Army Surgical Hospital) i know it's not about fighting, bleeding and dying... yrt it's about war in a different sense. We, the soldiers, make it to each other, the doctors have to fix it...
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Post by DarkClown on Sept 24, 2005 8:16:39 GMT 1
i only saw a good movie about ww2 in stalingrad, but i cant remember its name
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Post by Zecristo on Sept 24, 2005 12:43:35 GMT 1
As someone already stated, the "Brothers in Arms" series is out of sight! Even a bit hard to believe it's an american series, because there's not much (if any) of the typical "we americans kick asses wherever we go" attitude.
"Saving Private Ryan" is another unusual american film in which the hero dies. Quite unamerican...
"Wind Talkers" deserves the same comment...
"Enemy at the Gates" and "We were soldiers" are OK movies.
"Heartbreak ridge" and "Bunker" I do not remember if I saw. I may have seen them under a portuguese name and those very often have nothing to do with the original name...
"Kelly's heroes" is a classic
"When trumpets fade" does not ring a bell to me. I don't know if I saw it or not.
"M.A.S.H." went on portuguese TV (and is sometimes repeated) but I never saw it on a regular basis.
So, it seems I have some catching up to do... On the other hand, let me add some names to the list:
"The Thin Red Line" is a strange almost onirical (dreamlike) and/or delirious film at given moments. On other flashes it could almost seem a wildlife documentary. But no, there is a war going on there...
"No man's land" is, I think, the last war themed film I've seen to day and is likely to be especially interesting for Silent Voice because it is set on Bosnia and Herzegovina in 1993 and be sure it is not an american movie.
"Stalingrad" may well be the (german) film about Stalingrad Darkclown talks of. The version I have taped is in english though.
"Das Boot" TV series is another good german film.
"Happy Christmas Mr. Lawrence" is by now a classic with David Bowie (perhaps a better actor than musician).
"Memphis Belle" with it's B-17 bombers is definitely the film for Flying...
"Soldier", if I recall well, stands in the frontier between war and sci-fi...
"Gardens of stone" is a film I think I never saw to the end because I always fell asleep.
"G. I. Jane" is near the typical american film so be careful...
"Three Kings" seems to some extent a revisit to "Kelly's Heroes" but adding higher levels of american moralism.
"Platoon" is a must see for those concerned with the Vietnam issue.
"Apocalypse Now" deserves the same comment.
"Full Metal Jacket" on the same subject deserves a look also.
"Schindler's list". Is this a war movie? It is somehow indirectly related.
"underground" could fall to the same category.
"Empire of the Sun" is more directly associated with war and a good film.
"Behind enemy lines" is one of the more americanistic war movies I ever seen.
"Dirty Dozen" is another classic.
"The Sea Wolves" is one more old film with Gregory Peck, Roger Moore (some of 007 movies), David Niven, Patrick McNee (The Avengers TV series), Patrick Allen (a very good war documentary narrator) among others.
"The siege of firebase Gloria" is one more Vietnam film.
"The Deer Hunter" has also to do with Vietnam but goes a little beyond the war genre.
"Killing Fields" fits somewhat under the same category.
"Wheels of Terror" is a film I don't remember well but I think the action takes place on WWII's eastern front around 44.
"Commando". Is that a war movie or a mercenary movie?
"The Specialist". Dido.
"Rambo" series. Dido.
"The Battle of the Bulge" is at times a humorous war film.
"Patton" also deserves a look.
"Force 10 from Navarone" with Harrison Ford.
"The Guns of Navarone". This was to be expected.
"Ran" is a japanese film with some medieval war scenes and many more...
"The Bridge on the River Kwai" is one more classic.
"Tora, Tora, Tora" is another classic involving japanese.
"A Bridge too Far" is yet one more classic.
"The Great Escape" is again a classic.
"We'll Meet Again" british TV series.
"Undetonated Bomb" is, if I remember correctly, the name of a british TV series about which I cannot find, to date, any internet reference.
And I deliberately left out B & W films like "The longest day", "They died with their boots on", "Objective, Burma", "They were expendable", and so on...
Not talking about documentaries...
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Post by SilentVoice on Sept 24, 2005 12:49:00 GMT 1
Nice list Zec ill have to check out some of those(that i didnt watch) I also forgot Under Heavy Fir (vietnam)
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Post by fr3sh on Sept 24, 2005 15:01:08 GMT 1
where eagles dare... (another one with Eastwood)
and as for 'when trumpets fade', it's a hbo production about the Battle of the Hurtgen Forest (most 'twisted' plot I've seen)
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Post by germanwunderkind on Sept 24, 2005 15:39:14 GMT 1
I remember an old amusing TV series i only know the german name "Ein Käfig voller Helden" in english its probably " A cage full of heroes" or so. Its about how stupid the germans are and how brilliand the allies. *ROFL* ;D ;D
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Post by flying on Sept 24, 2005 16:46:49 GMT 1
Ah, and suddenly out of the cold mists of a cratered landscape of bloodied, churned mud of WWI, leaping out of their waterfilled trenches for yet another hopeless charge against a merciless hail of HMG fire, artillery shells and voracious barbed-wire, materialize the prematurely aged characters of All Quiet on the Westen Front (the 1979 version).
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Post by flying on Sept 24, 2005 18:34:39 GMT 1
Zecristo's list is long enough to include most of the movies I remember watching about war recently.
There's probalby dozens more, some good, some very, very, very bad that I rented from videoclubs, but which I can't remember now, after all these years.
Let me add just a couple (apart from All Quiet on the Western Front, on an earlier reply):
Glory, on the very fist Regiment of Blacks of the American Civil War, with a James Horner soundtrack.
Saviour, an Oliver Stone movie, on foreign mercenaries in the Balkans War of the 1990s
It is hard to put these 2 movies in the same bag, such are their differences in time, place, weaponry and such, but still, they are both about the "underdogs", of whom the gigantic and faceless machine of war has swallowed up everything normal in their lives, thus stripping them of every thing they recognized as the marks of their identity as social individuals.
And how do they, these who once were men but who now are but lost souls trapped in the foggy limbo of a war that has erased their former selves, how do they handle a reality that is so horribly different from what they used to know when they were alive?
In the only possible sane way: by believing in something bigger than themselves, something worth giving their already discarded lives for.
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Post by Zecristo on Sept 26, 2005 0:49:43 GMT 1
Blasted! How could I forget the great - talking of twisted arguments-: "Catch 22"
"All quiet on the Western Front" the Michael York in version?
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Post by JNK on Sept 28, 2005 17:33:22 GMT 1
Good Finnish war films: Tuntematon Sotilas (1955) (original book translated to many languages). It's telling about Continuation War. And Talvisota (1989) telling ostrobothian company in Winter war.
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Post by germanwunderkind on Sept 29, 2005 16:47:14 GMT 1
there is one more good german film "Die Brücke" and one more time i dont know the english name is. its about a few kids (convinced nazis) they want to defend a bridge. then came the americans. as the 1st child dies the others ask themselves if its right what thy do. the film showes how the WWII was really like.
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Post by flying on Sept 29, 2005 18:56:36 GMT 1
there is one more good german film "Die Brücke" and one more time i dont know the english name is. its about a few kids (convinced nazis) they want to defend a bridge. then came the americans. as the 1st child dies the others ask themselves if its right what thy do. the film showes how the WWII was really like. Ah, yes, I know that story! I bought the book (by Manfred Gregor) in 1980, and of course read it several times, but I don't think I ever saw the movie. The name in Portuguese is the same as in German, and I would think it would be the same in English too, i.e. The Bridge. It's a good story, to some extent auto-biographical. Let me read to you the synopsis on the backcover of my copy of the book: The Bridge tells the story of 7 teenagers which, in May of 1945, when Hitler was using as a last resort the elderly and the children, are put in charge of defending a bridge that is being threatened by the Americans.Giving themselves fully to the task as if it were a childrens' game, with the naive enthusiasm of Romantic heroism spurred by their imagination of teenagers, they uselessly fall one after another, deeply disappointed, after fighting not only the Americans but also the German squad which comes to dynamite "their" bridge.
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Post by ironman on Sept 30, 2005 1:15:56 GMT 1
a bridge to far (world war 2 about the bridge over the river rine) Full metal jacket (part about ellis island part about vietnam) bridge over the river kwai (about english POWs in the jungle of birma buildign a rail road) Das boat (one of the best sub marine movies ever) esspecial the directors cut) Born on the Forth of July ( a anti war/ vietnam war movie by oliver stone) Guns of navarone (Silly war movie about blowing up some guns in greece) Force 10 From Navarone (same story as above) When trompets fade ( a anti war movie about a soldier who is against war but gets command of a world war 2 squad) Enemy at the gates ( a failed European world war 2 production with nice combat scense but a very thin story about a german sniper colonel hunting some russian pessant) The Generals daughter (more of a militairy police movie , modern) Battle for Midway (a old world war 2 movie about the great american victory in midway) Battle Of Britain (old world war 2 movie about the air force battle between germany and england for the skies above england) Blue Max (old world war 2 movie about a german bi plain sqaudron who all want to get the medal the blue max..) Colditz Story (about a world war 2 English prisoners locked in a german castle) Diary Of Anne Frank (most well know war story about a jewish Dutch girl who hiding from the germans with her family) Soldaat van oranje Soldier of Orange (Dutch war movie about resistance) Meisje met het rode haar Girl with the red hair (about the netherlands most well known resistance fighter a woman called hani schaft) Dirty Dozen ( a silly war movie about a group of condemed americans soldier prisoners who are drafted for a suicide mission) Dirty Dozen: The Deadly Mission (same story as above) das eiserness kreus ( a german war movie about a obscest german officer and hes gaol to earn a ironcross) Mc Arther (great movie about one of americas best known and most intelligent generals) Kelly’s Heroes ( a silly 1960s world war 2 movie about some hippy soldiers trying to get behind german lines in order to rob a bank) (only good scene and actor was archie bunker as the loud mounth general lol lol) McKenzie Break ( a world war 2 movie about breaking out of a allied prisoner of war camp) Memphis Belle ( a great movie about the bomber who carried the atom bomb to hirosima) Midway (great movie about the battle of midway) (altho a bit dated now) Hamburger Hill (about the vietnam war and gettign a certain moutain on wich so many soldiers died they call it hamburger hill) Schindler’s List (one of the best war or anti war movies ever made, the fact that it was tottally shot in black and white only gives a far greater effect of being there and reality ) Stalingrad (world war 2 movie about the battle of stalingrad) Tora Tora Tora (world war 2 movie about the attack on pearl harbor) Saving Private Ryan (world war 2 movie about waisting a platoon of men to find just one guy) ok tht is all i can think of for now
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Post by Zecristo on Oct 5, 2005 19:19:42 GMT 1
Sorry! I'm afraid Memphis Belle has nothing to do with the atomic bomb. It's about a B-17 crew getting to complete the 25th mission over europe and so gaining their ticket back home. The bomb was dropped by the Enola Gay B-29 bomber so named after the pilot's mother escorted by two other B-29s equiped with recording and measurement instruments.
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Post by ironman on Oct 8, 2005 2:54:07 GMT 1
Sorry! I'm afraid Memphis Belle has nothing to do with the atomic bomb. It's about a B-17 crew getting to complete the 25th mission over europe and so gaining their ticket back home. The bomb was dropped by the Enola Gay B-29 bomber so named after the pilot's mother escorted by two other B-29s equiped with recording and measurement instruments. argh got me air planes mixed up, ur absolutly right
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Post by flying on Oct 8, 2005 14:18:00 GMT 1
Yep, both those types of bomber are called "flying fortresses", only the B29 is a "super flying fortress"...
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