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Post by LuintoST on Jan 4, 2007 22:13:53 GMT 1
Hello Plc,
Well, I was playing on your server, like I did the last 4 days. I was panzering, and was great defending. Then I shooted a panzer into the househole of radar, and luckily double killed. You kicked me. Well, ok, that's fair, it's not allowed. I didn't know that, so ok, I rejoined with the intention of not doing it again. Goldrush started. Right after the start, I ran as fast as i could, was standing in the gate, and launched a perfectly placed panzer at the corner. I tripple killed 3 plc dudes, who were running for tank probably. I was banned.. Please, that is not spawnkilling. You had three ways to run from your spawn, i killed you guys at the corner of 1 exit. Not even close to your spawn. Maybe you can't stand that i had a bit of luck, and killed you all, but is this spawnkilling? I love the mod and the server, but could you please unban me, or give some information for the future?
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Post by Piurek on Jan 5, 2007 2:33:07 GMT 1
I dont know. This wasnt spawn exit, and it wasnt close to spawn. We should wait for person who banned you. He will tell his side of story. If this was mastike you will be unbanned.  |
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Post by ironman on Jan 5, 2007 16:47:59 GMT 1
it was xxx it says spawn killing, temperaly ban 999 minutes
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Post by LuintoST on Jan 5, 2007 17:22:00 GMT 1
Yeah, but was it "the good choice" to kick me, or were some clanmembers just angry that I'm getting to know the panzer batter? I would like some comments of the people themselves, yesterday playing saying what is wrong with shooting a panzer near the corner of the wall and the ammo & health cabinets on goldrush, at the start being an axis.
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Post by .x.x.x. on Jan 6, 2007 11:38:16 GMT 1
Well Lets see... 1. You still continued to play panzer on battery when you had 2 guys more and far more better players. At first i gave you some hints to drop the panzer, which you didn't. Afterwards i told you directly "drop the panzer" AND DID YOU DO THAT HELL NO!! 2. We were playing radar, when you SK almost half the Allies in the bunker thats when i kicked you for spawnkilling. 3.You came back and still using the panzer (whole time while he was playing which is really lame) when your team (again) had a good advantage against up. 3. For the cherry on the top when your team had superior firepower <ou spawnkilled Whit the panzer. Now look, i warded you couple of times, i even told you when you reconnected i will ban you next time you brake a rule. OK ? Because PLC server's has more then enough players, and let me tell you the servers will survive whitout a snob like you.  And for god's sake don't play the victim here..... Ah my favorite personal quote: My tolerance for idiots is 0 |
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Post by LuintoST on Jan 6, 2007 16:03:44 GMT 1
The sk in the bunker, ok, i can understand that.
The other things are quite unclear. Is there somewhere in the rules that the team with an advantage -like you call it- the team with better players, can't use panzer? The panzershot at goldrush was really not a sk, so it's a bit unfair to kick me for that saying sk'er. Partly our team did quite good since I could kill you with my panzer.
But we should stop this discussion. Panzer is allowed on your server. As long as it's not disabled, I think it's no harm to use it, but I'll watch a bit for the sk's.
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Post by .x.x.x. on Jan 6, 2007 16:57:20 GMT 1
No but its and unwritten rule, and do you know the term ethics?
Common sense should tell you to stop using the panzer.
Or are you a person, who kicks a man who is allredy on hes knees?
The code of ethic's applys everywhere even on a game server.
You have been baned for 999 minuts, next time i catch you at braking the rules, or getting a report about you braking the rules again you will be permanently baned.
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Post by germanwunderkind on Jan 7, 2007 21:32:59 GMT 1
1st I need to say that I wasn't on server so I think I can look at this objectively
the !kick had a good reason I did the same
but about the 999 temporarily ban
I'm sorry to say this but...as I see the reason "advantage team has good pazer"
isn't the best to ban someone
if u are on the loosing side u will ban/kick him with higher probability
as if u are on the winning team.
its very often that teams seem unbalanced because ther is a good panzer
(most time a clan member ^^)
but who of u would kick a member of the own clan???
and on a clan war u can't say u are better + u have panzer thats against rules
and that stop war and say u won
kind regards
gWk
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Post by toppahousu on Jan 7, 2007 22:50:27 GMT 1
The sk in the bunker, ok, i can understand that. The other things are quite unclear. Is there somewhere in the rules that the team with an advantage -like you call it- the team with better players, can't use panzer? The panzershot at goldrush was really not a sk, so it's a bit unfair to kick me for that saying sk'er. Partly our team did quite good since I could kill you with my panzer. But we should stop this discussion. Panzer is allowed on your server. As long as it's not disabled, I think it's no harm to use it, but I'll watch a bit for the sk's. there is a sentense in server rules that say dont just go running around with panzer all the time  all i have to say about this !! |
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Post by SporanoX on Jan 8, 2007 14:11:32 GMT 1
ok, luinto sucks like a team player... when i wasn´t level on shrub ... i was playng in fuel depot and my team have 2 more players then allies... so i change to allie to make fair teams... so, this animal luinto call a vote to kick me, and the reason  i change my side... so, i try to come at server 1 and call piurek or other plc member to advertise him, but no one come at 2nd server, and i said him, one day i will ban you ... but XXX do it... so, if the XXX reason isn´t enouth, i think this reason its more then enouth ... so, tks XXX... by the way ... LUINTO, learn more about ET and come play again ... |
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Post by Ricardus on Jan 8, 2007 18:39:27 GMT 1
Is Luinto part of the crowd which includes 'The End' and 'Clown'? it seems like they know each other. I have heard them converse in Dutch 'see you at school tomorrow' etc. I think R.I.P might be amongst them.
BTW - these guys (clown etc.) often insult me in Dutch and converse with each other saying shitty stuff about me and the clan thinking (although they don't do too much of that it seems) that I don't understand.
I've also spec'ed Clown and he is - to my mind - a little shit. He plays nearly always as a Medic - does little to help the objective and then congratulates himself on being high fragger etc. He is also cheeky, impertinent and complains when killed (its my mouse, had no HP, etc. etc.)
I think we should ban these people for good personally, they spoil the game for everyone.
RIP though seems OK. No bad behaviour from him.
What do you think? Opinions greatfully received.
Ricardus
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Post by toppahousu on Jan 8, 2007 18:50:26 GMT 1
Well about luinto and clown i feel a lot like ric.... Mostly they spoil others game by not helping their team and its so stupid to blame something if u get killed.....cant they just say great shot or smt...but u got lucky...or lag...or some other reason If some one can kill they most of the time then they are noobs etc.... They really cant handle the truth that some are better than others..( some can kill...some can help the team...some can do the both ) And funnies thing is that they call their team noobs if they loose the map...and basically its their own fault. I really think that they spoil the fun out of the regular not so skilled and experienced players...for me its no difference...most of the time its funny to see how they loose all the time  never seen that " the end " |
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Post by SporanoX on Jan 8, 2007 19:10:40 GMT 1
well, about R.I.P. i play whith him some times and i like he plays... help team, and don´t speek to mutch... good impression
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Post by LuintoST on Jan 9, 2007 10:10:41 GMT 1
@ Sporanox : can you please post the server captured text. I was complaining that you all switched back to axis even after a shuffle and i was happy that you came finally to help us. So i never called a vote for that. Shuffle votes i did. @ Ricardus : also post the server captured text. I never said to Clown, see you at school tomorrow or something like that in whatever language. And why am i not helping our team? Most ppl can't kill you guys, since you coorperate good, and always run together on the maps. That's a good thing for you. I also had a hard time killing you as medic, so i went panzer. That way i could kill one or even two plc-guys in one spawntime. (remember the tripple kill on goldrush, no sk, 1 minute extra atleast for you to get the tank) So my team has more time, more chanches to do the obj. I think this is a reasonable thought. Like germanwunderkind said, you guys know better. If you have some experience you know that a good panzerer can make the difference. Please, consider the panzering of me not as slacking or noobing, since i play this game already for over couple years, but consider it as "my secret weapon" to help my team get the win on the map.  |
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Post by ironman on Jan 9, 2007 16:50:14 GMT 1
Is Luinto part of the crowd which includes 'The End' and 'Clown'? it seems like they know each other. I have heard them converse in Dutch 'see you at school tomorrow' etc. I think R.I.P might be amongst them. BTW - these guys (clown etc.) often insult me in Dutch and converse with each other saying shitty stuff about me and the clan thinking (although they don't do too much of that it seems) that I don't understand. I've also spec'ed Clown and he is - to my mind - a little shit. He plays nearly always as a Medic - does little to help the objective and then congratulates himself on being high fragger etc. He is also cheeky, impertinent and complains when killed (its my mouse, had no HP, etc. etc.) I think we should ban these people for good personally, they spoil the game for everyone. RIP though seems OK. No bad behaviour from him. What do you think? Opinions greatfully received. Ricardus yeah when i started reading this i thoughed u wanted to say that R.I.P. was a bad behaved player, or bad (egoistic) player, but hes a very decent team player (as far as i seen him play)... iam for temp ban (999 minutes is max) and when the lil  ....... who spoil the game for others return and do the exact same thing then just permantly ban them.. @ Sporanox : can you please post the server captured text. I was complaining that you all switched back to axis even after a shuffle and i was happy that you came finally to help us. So i never called a vote for that. Shuffle votes i did. @ Ricardus : also post the server captured text. I never said to Clown, see you at school tomorrow or something like that in whatever language. if you wanna quote people then use the Quote Button instead of reply.. And why am i not helping our team? Most ppl can't kill you guys, since you coorperate good, and always run together on the maps. That's a good thing for you. I also had a hard time killing you as medic, so i went panzer. That way i could kill one or even two plc-guys in one spawntime. (remember the tripple kill on goldrush, no sk, 1 minute extra atleast for you to get the tank) So my team has more time, more chanches to do the obj. I think this is a reasonable thought. Like germanwunderkind said, you guys know better. If you have some experience you know that a good panzerer can make the difference. Please, consider the panzering of me not as slacking or noobing, since i play this game already for over couple years, but consider it as "my secret weapon" to help my team get the win on the map. it is not so much about panzer noobing or not, we allow 1 panzer on each side, that is the way we set the server(s), if we wanted we can ban panzers all together, but that is not the point, the point is evening the team, and if you already see that the enemy is much weaker then you simple stop panzering, atleast that is the curtiouse thing experienced players do...  |
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Post by germanwunderkind on Jan 9, 2007 17:59:13 GMT 1
there is a easy way to avoid those trouble
stay english
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Post by LuintoST on Jan 9, 2007 20:18:51 GMT 1
[quote author=admin board=banappeal thread=1167945233
it is not so much about panzer noobing or not, we allow 1 panzer on each side, that is the way we set the server(s), if we wanted we can ban panzers all together, but that is not the point, the point is evening the team, and if you already see that the enemy is much weaker then you simple stop panzering, atleast that is the curtiouse thing experienced players do...
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Ok, didn't knew that people expect that. But ok, I'll switch class if I see the other team is remarkably much weaker. Thx for the info.
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Post by ironman on Jan 9, 2007 20:23:52 GMT 1
[quote author=admin board=banappeal thread=1167945233 it is not so much about panzer noobing or not, we allow 1 panzer on each side, that is the way we set the server(s), if we wanted we can ban panzers all together, but that is not the point, the point is evening the team, and if you already see that the enemy is much weaker then you simple stop panzering, atleast that is the curtiouse thing experienced players do... Ok, didn't knew that people expect that. But ok, I'll switch class if I see the other team is remarkably much weaker. Thx for the info.[/quote] ========================================================================= you quoted me but u changed the quote code and thus it appears wrong now  |
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Post by Ricardus on Jan 9, 2007 22:17:01 GMT 1
Luinto - I apologise. I am glad that you are not associated with clown in any way.
Ricardus
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Post by LuintoST on Jan 10, 2007 16:37:08 GMT 1
No problem at all. I'll start being engy or med, and show you that way my "skills"  |
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