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Post by glenn on Nov 22, 2007 18:56:27 GMT 1
my opinion is that plc server is more and more going et pro. yesterday i played 1hour and a half with 2killer meds that had 1500+xp (jeek and some other guy) on the other team, toppa was there to. today i come on server and there is one guy with 1000+ xp (i don't call names but i think he is VIP) guess what class he plays !!freaking medic!! and he had like 15kills without death on a 4-4 battle (was he healing to idk). i really loved to play on plc server and had lots of fun but with all those killing medics its not fun anymore. i know we had already a discussion about killer meds but i don't remember where it was so i post it here sorry if i post it wrong. greatz glenn
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Post by .x.x.x. on Nov 22, 2007 20:17:16 GMT 1
Listen i understand from where ur coming from, but the times there are no PLC on the server we can't act on those killer med's. So i think it's a bit strange that u think those people will be delt whit despite there are no PLC'rs around. And i can assure u, every PLC will act on that offense (killer med's) and will take care of it. And yes believe it or not some vip's from time to time don't act like vip's, but thats another story. Ever heard of the expression; when the cat's are away the mice will play ?
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Post by glenn on Nov 22, 2007 22:37:18 GMT 1
yeah i understand but it just isn't fun when no plc are online because most of the time people break rules than. and when you try to kick a killer med with vote all his team mates vote no because for them its good he kills allot but for the team without killer med it really . but whatever will happen i will keep playing on plc server and try to have fun even when there are no plc's around. thanks for reply greatz glenn
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Post by gespstylo on Nov 24, 2007 6:29:41 GMT 1
im getting sick of it too actually, and i understand that its impossible for PLC members to be online 24/7, indeed some VIP sometimes just dont act as they should, and when you call a vote, ill vote yes no matter what side just go away when there are killer meds and no plc players online, thats what i do
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Post by Gursa on Nov 24, 2007 11:29:28 GMT 1
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Post by yourbestfriend on Nov 24, 2007 11:44:18 GMT 1
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Post by gwk on Nov 24, 2007 13:42:29 GMT 1
i bet my arse off that one (s)killer engi has no chance against two (s)killer meds
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Post by gespstylo on Nov 24, 2007 13:42:34 GMT 1
lol gurs ;D or killer f ops never run out of bullets (thats what i do if i wanna go frag a bit)
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Post by Kall* on Nov 24, 2007 16:14:35 GMT 1
That's quite a statement gesp, but you have a point there.
In my opinion, it's A LOT harder to play against a 4star fops then against a medic with a good aim (i refuse to call that a killermed).
I 've got the feeling that the "Killermed" thing is sometimes just an excuse for players who can't win or kill anyone. I can understand that that might be fustrating from time to time, but hey, it's ET, if you don't like it, go play minesweeper or something.... Classes differ from each other, that 's what makes this game so fun.
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Post by gespstylo on Nov 24, 2007 16:54:11 GMT 1
classes have a purpose
-medics need to support their team and give backup, NOT lead their team -engineers need to fix things asap, THEY should be the leaders of a squad (cause they need backup the most) -f ops are to defend a territory without high losses -c ops are for unis, mines and to distract the enemy -soldier is to break heavy defence or reinforce defences
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Post by Kall* on Nov 24, 2007 17:24:22 GMT 1
Nah i don't see it that way at all.
IF there are any leaders on the team, they're definitly not established by the class they are imo.
Classes should be choosed in order to win the map, if a medic can hold of 2 engy's from building/repairing/... something, then he has done a good job.
The only way a medic can be unsupportive, and therefore useless, is when he runs far ahead on his team and not healing them. That's the only situation i can think of where i would try to convince him to change his/her behaviour.
Glenn stated that he didn't like a 1000+ xp player to be medic, i think that's bs if the medic is doing a good job defending/attacking/helping the team. A medic IS harder to kill then any other class, and that's the way it will always be, even if selfheal is disabled.
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Post by yourbestfriend on Nov 24, 2007 21:45:05 GMT 1
i bet my arse off that one (s)killer engi has no chance against two (s)killer meds Hmmm, like to take that challenge once Unfortunately I am not skilled
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Post by gespstylo on Nov 25, 2007 8:51:48 GMT 1
let make it 2 killer meds against 2 killer engys rifle guys (im in ybf )
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Post by toppahousu on Nov 25, 2007 9:31:38 GMT 1
I put my spoon to soup...
This particular case what i think u are talking ( glenn ) i was there in present And not to offence u i cant just kick ban etc if u say someone is doing something wrong I want to be sure he does what u say...if u get my point
I did so and found finally out that the one ( cant remember the name ) was acting like killermedic...not all the time but a lot and therefore i banned him later on after asking him several time to stop it
We have talked a lot about killermedic here on forum lately and i think conversation is going little bit of the rails just like kall pointed out Killermedic isnt the medic who has good aim and kills a lot he/she is the one who dont give a rats ass about team and runs far ahead leaving team unhealed to kill as many enemies as possible ( and many times calling the one who killed him a noob )
Also i see glenns point about a one great aimer as medic with high xp while u dont get support from your team as engi...frustating
As an conclusion i must say that at least for me several ( maybe even not so skilled ) players who works for their team is far more important in server than one highly skilled player so if one player ( usually medic with good aim ) ruins many other players interest to game at that moment i try to make that change ( player to choose another class, shuffle, swap, kick, ban )
Server with 10 player is far more interresting than server with few players -> finally empty If someone want a challenge then he must choose some of the pro servers with mostly medics healing them selves
PLC stands for to get the hole pontential out of the ET not just to get kills to be a highest fragger
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Post by tailgunner on Nov 25, 2007 10:33:54 GMT 1
My words Toppa
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Post by yourbestfriend on Nov 25, 2007 10:35:23 GMT 1
Well, the famous old and (less) wise Toppa has spoken. I totally agree with him. (You must know however that normally he only talks to horses like this ) Ybf.
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Post by gespstylo on Nov 25, 2007 10:43:02 GMT 1
nicely put toppa
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Post by glenn on Nov 25, 2007 13:51:54 GMT 1
i understand toppa your a wise man greatz glenn
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Post by marakatoneskid on Nov 26, 2007 15:08:12 GMT 1
yes! i think that the most important job of a supermedic is jump on enemy grenades!!!!! the medic can survive and the others can escape xD this or do the beautiful job of be a kamikaze medic and jump jump run run down down revive revive escape escape heal heal (this is an infinite cercle and if u are a good player it has not end ) with the other hand play like a supermedic its boring after 30 min bcause u have so much life and a very poor ammo, in those chases i prefer to do engineering (2 guns for choose and a lot of abilities)
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Post by Ricardus on Nov 26, 2007 16:59:12 GMT 1
I agree with you Toppa.
Question to Kall though; When you talk about:
Why does it matter what class a player is if he (or she) has a 'good aim'. Your sentence gives the matter away. Because a medic with a 'good aim' is more deadly in 'one to one' type duelling than any other class even if the other class (e.g. fd ops, eng, cov etc.) has an equally good aim. In fact, a medic who has 'reasonable aim' will most often beat an engineer with good aim. So, - it's not the 'good aim' which is at issue here (or even strictly relevant)
Unfortunately, a lot of people (with good aim or not) play as medics because its easier to kill your opponent, run away and heal yourself. Its that simple.
Killermedic is emphatically not someone with a good aim (although the better their aim, the more irritating they are) I have played against many killermedics of varying quality. The shit ones are only slightly less irritating than the 'good' ones (e.g. those with 'good aim')
Ricardus
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